[Phyrephox]

Originally Posted by justinhhp87

well as they say might makes right, for long periods of time the winner was right the loser was wrong, therefore the winning side could justify why and what they did

declaring something has "divine mission" usually implies the other side is about to get taken behind the woodshed and shot

and the do not think that idea that native americans were the peaceful folk, they warred on each other as much any civilization did,

plus NA adapted to the natual enviroment because they were still in touch with it and had a hunter gatherer affinty that western explorers losts

I really like to shy away from the terms "winner" and "loser". Whenever there are wars both sides have casualties and to use such simple terms is sometimes disregarding the troubles that both sides faced. But since you are stating "might makes right" are you saying that if the aliens were to come down with more advanced technology than most of our modern civilizations that it's alright to accept and take whatever plans they might have for the human race in any manner that they see fit?

I don't believe I said the Native Americans were peaceful. I said that just because they didn't shoot eachother in the face or back doesn't make them any less advanced. You can't measure progress by who has the bigger gun.

[damien220]

well i find it really silly when people talk about seeing ufo or making contact with aliens......
i always hear americans saying that.....and i just say why them always!!!
but few days ago i heared in my country some guys saying that they saw something like that.....
but i just don't beleive it.....
if there is ufo then why do this ,why not come to our planet and show themselves.....why always show in front of some people

[[lexus]]

Originally Posted by Phyrephox

I really like to shy away from the terms "winner" and "loser". Whenever there are wars both sides have casualties and to use such simple terms is sometimes disregarding the troubles that both sides faced. But since you are stating "might makes right" are you saying that if the aliens were to come down with more advanced technology than most of our modern civilizations that it's alright to accept and take whatever plans they might have for the human race in any manner that they see fit?

Its not that we got a lot of chance if a superior race comes along with superior weapons and tells us to do what they want us to do. Sure, we can resist and perish, and Id definately choose for that option, but well, they either kill us all.

Its not about accepting. Its about being forced to accept it.

[♥SteeL♥]

Originally Posted by damien220

well i find it really silly when people talk about seeing ufo or making contact with aliens......
i always hear americans saying that.....and i just say why them always!!!
but few days ago i heared in my country some guys saying that they saw something like that.....
but i just don't beleive it.....
if there is ufo then why do this ,why not come to our planet and show themselves.....why always show in front of some people

I've seen a ufo- seriously for real whether it was alien or human made i cant tell you.
But it was the most amazing feat of stealth like technology i ever seen(sound wierd?) actually i didnt see it my friend did-
he saw it because he is color blind, he could see a shape obscuring the horizon.
I'll always remember that night it was huge and quiet shaped like a pointy wedge with a light absorbing surface with minimal reflection.
it took me forever to make out the shape but it was definitely there because it moved.

[damien220]

well you're saying but it may just be imagination....or something natural that you saw in an extraodinary way....

[♥SteeL♥]

Originally Posted by damien220

well you're saying but it may just be imagination....or something natural that you saw in an extraodinary way....

No me and my friend werent the only people who seen it a whole high school football team and stadium seen it too along with a bunch of residents in a wealthy lakeside community, in total it was believed 1200-2000 people had seen the same ufo over a 2 day period. There was a news paper article that had been re released 2 yrs ago but i couldnt find the original newspaper reports. There was also supposed to be video footage by a local new crew recording the game at the high school football field for local high school game hi lites.
Guess what they dont have the footage anymore.

[justinhhp87]

Originally Posted by Phyrephox

I really like to shy away from the terms "winner" and "loser". Whenever there are wars both sides have casualties and to use such simple terms is sometimes disregarding the troubles that both sides faced. But since you are stating "might makes right" are you saying that if the aliens were to come down with more advanced technology than most of our modern civilizations that it's alright to accept and take whatever plans they might have for the human race in any manner that they see fit?

I don't believe I said the Native Americans were peaceful. I said that just because they didn't shoot eachother in the face or back doesn't make them any less advanced. You can't measure progress by who has the bigger gun.

sorry for the misqoute

but if they hadthe power to de atomize our world and the what not i believe we would not in a situation to argue much, thats the exact reason why something like the Death Star was built, because you possess the ultimate power whose to say they wont use it

and i am a strong believer that the person with the gun to ze back or ze front has a better choice of what the rules should be

and form the looks of that show V, this is the case, come up actin peaceful but slowly force us to do their bidding becuase thye possess the pwoer to wipe the planet out in the same way no wanted the cold war to turn in to nuclear war because it would wipe it the planet